What does it actually mean when we say “God is with us”? If God is everywhere, is He somehow more present in a church building? Why could Moses talk with God but not see His face? Why does getting too close to God occasionally seem… hazardous to your health? And what do Eden, the Tabernacle, the Temple—and somehow a submarine—have to do with any of this?
In this episode of The Deep End, we trace God’s presence from the Garden of Eden all the way to Revelation and discover a bigger story running through the entire Bible: God wants to dwell with His people.
Along the way we wrestle with sacred space, cherubim, the Holy Spirit, whether church buildings are actually “God’s house,” whether you can run from God, and the incredible promise at the end of the Bible: one day, humanity will once again see His face.
It’s a deep one. Literally. We brought a submarine. 

What do Billy Graham, the King James Bible, the Dead Sea Scrolls, animal sacrifices, and a five-legged goat have in common? Somehow, they all ended up in this episode of The Deep End.
We start by asking whether the Christianity we inherited is wrong—or simply incomplete. Then we wade into the deep stuff: Can we really trust modern Bible translations? How did we end up with so many denominations? Why does the Bible involve so much blood and sacrifice? And was the cross really about an angry God demanding someone die—or is something much bigger happening in the biblical story?
From Leviticus and Passover to the cross and resurrection, this conversation might challenge some assumptions you didn't even know you had—and give you a much bigger picture of what Jesus actually came to accomplish.
Oh, and apparently Justin may be starting a motorcycle cult. So there's that.

In Episode 1 of The Deep End, Ron, Justin, and Megan go back to Eden and ask what Genesis actually says versus what we may have assumed. From the serpent and the Tree of Life to the image of God, free will, and why God allowed a choice in the first place, we follow the story from Eden to the new creation and discover what it means to be truly human.