What do Pharaoh, Jonah, Spider-Man, VeggieTales, a near-death “fart,” and being a floor mopper in the Kingdom of God have in common?
Somehow, they all made it into Part 2 of our conversation about hell.
But this time, we may have started at the wrong end of the story.
Before asking “What is hell?” maybe we need to ask: What is God actually doing when He judges?
Because the Bible sometimes describes judgment as something creation actually celebrates. It says both believers and unbelievers will be resurrected. It suggests people may be accountable for what they actually knew. And it leaves surprisingly little detail about the thing Christians seem most curious about: what happens immediately after we die.
So what happens to the person who never heard about Jesus? Does God judge everyone exactly the same? Does the opportunity to repent explicitly end at death? How can God be completely just and extravagantly merciful at the same time? And what happens when the person whose eternal destiny you’re wondering about isn’t hypothetical anymore?
What if it’s someone you love?

What do Dante’s Inferno, the King James Bible, Greek mythology, Augustine, fart jokes, and Tommy Boy have in common?
Unfortunately, they all ended up in our conversation about hell.
In Episode 6, Part 1 of The Deep End, we ask a question most Christians assume has a pretty obvious answer: What actually happens to people who reject God?
Then things get complicated.
Because the Bible uses words like Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, and Tartarus—and they don’t all mean the same thing. So what did Jesus actually mean when He warned about hell? What is Revelation’s Lake of Fire? Does the Bible teach eternal conscious punishment? Does “the wages of sin is death” mean… actual death? And have Christians always agreed about any of this?
We put three historic Christian views of final judgment on the table—eternal conscious torment, conditional immortality, and universal reconciliation—and ask each of them to explain the passages that don’t fit neatly into their system.
Fair warning: there’s a decent chance you’ll have a Tommy Boy moment somewhere along the way:
“Did I eat paint chips as a kid?”
But underneath all the Greek words, Church Fathers, fire, death, judgment, and theological arguments is a question that becomes a lot less academic when the unbeliever has a name:
Can I trust God with the eternal destiny of someone I love?
And that’s where Part 1 takes us into the deep end.

What do the Rapture, the Antichrist, giant dragons, Left Behind, mansions in heaven, a thousand-year reign, and hiding under your bathtub have in common? Apparently, they’re all part of trying to figure out how this whole thing ends.
In this episode of The Deep End, we wade into the wonderfully uncomplicated world of end-times theology. Is the Rapture actually in the Bible? Could Jesus return at any moment? Is Revelation a play-by-play of events still to come—or have we been reading someone else’s mail like it was tomorrow’s newspaper? And when Jesus returns, are Christians leaving earth for heaven…or is the Bible’s ending actually about heaven coming here?
Along the way, we tackle the tribulation, the millennium, the Antichrist, Revelation’s seriously strange imagery, why Christians disagree about almost all of it—and why some of us grew up secretly hoping Jesus would wait until after the game to come back. But underneath all the charts, timelines, beasts, trumpets, and arguments is something we may have missed: The end of the biblical story isn’t supposed to scare Christians. It’s supposed to give us hope. Jesus wins. Death loses. Creation is restored. And God dwells with humanity.
It’s the end of the world as we know it.
And we feel fine.

What do Abraham, circumcision, an olive tree, 23andMe, the modern state of Israel, and Canadians have in common? Against all odds, they all made it into this episode of The Deep End. We’re wading into one of the easiest topics Christians ever discuss: Israel. What could possibly go wrong? What does the Bible actually mean by “God’s chosen people”? Is biblical Israel the same thing as the modern nation of Israel? Did the Church replace Israel? Was the creation of Israel in 1948 a fulfillment of prophecy? Does “I will bless those who bless you” mean Christians—or America—are biblically required to support the modern Israeli government? And where do Jewish and Gentile followers of Jesus fit into all of this? To get there, we go all the way back to Abraham, work through Jesus and Paul, take an unexpectedly long detour into circumcision, do a little horticulture in Romans 11, and eventually make it to 1948. And underneath all of those questions is an even bigger one: Can God be trusted to keep His promises? This one may challenge some things you’ve been taught. It may confirm others. And there’s a decent chance somebody is going to send us an email.
Welcome to The Deep End. Real Questions. Deeper Answers.

What does it actually mean when we say “God is with us”? If God is everywhere, is He somehow more present in a church building? Why could Moses talk with God but not see His face? Why does getting too close to God occasionally seem… hazardous to your health? And what do Eden, the Tabernacle, the Temple—and somehow a submarine—have to do with any of this?
In this episode of The Deep End, we trace God’s presence from the Garden of Eden all the way to Revelation and discover a bigger story running through the entire Bible: God wants to dwell with His people.
Along the way we wrestle with sacred space, cherubim, the Holy Spirit, whether church buildings are actually “God’s house,” whether you can run from God, and the incredible promise at the end of the Bible: one day, humanity will once again see His face.
It’s a deep one. Literally. We brought a submarine. 

What do Billy Graham, the King James Bible, the Dead Sea Scrolls, animal sacrifices, and a five-legged goat have in common? Somehow, they all ended up in this episode of The Deep End.
We start by asking whether the Christianity we inherited is wrong—or simply incomplete. Then we wade into the deep stuff: Can we really trust modern Bible translations? How did we end up with so many denominations? Why does the Bible involve so much blood and sacrifice? And was the cross really about an angry God demanding someone die—or is something much bigger happening in the biblical story?
From Leviticus and Passover to the cross and resurrection, this conversation might challenge some assumptions you didn't even know you had—and give you a much bigger picture of what Jesus actually came to accomplish.
Oh, and apparently Justin may be starting a motorcycle cult. So there's that.

In Episode 1 of The Deep End, Ron, Justin, and Megan go back to Eden and ask what Genesis actually says versus what we may have assumed. From the serpent and the Tree of Life to the image of God, free will, and why God allowed a choice in the first place, we follow the story from Eden to the new creation and discover what it means to be truly human.